Join Transformation church Sunday service at 11AM with Michael Todd, Live Stream (April-24-2022). A point you also mentioned. "[23][24], In 1983, MacArthur first published his belief in the doctrine of "incarnational sonship." And they aint all wrong. Either way the theory that a pastor should be poor is ignorant. If theyre charities (and I suspect many of them will be) then theyre monitored by OSCR, and will have to submit yearly, independently audited, accounts. There are doubtless many things wrong with Chandler (hes a Baptist for a start!) Thanks again, Your email address will not be published. The truth be told the Bible never once says it is wrong to have money or stuff. "[37], MacArthur is an outspoken critic of same-sex marriage, the ordination of women, the Roman Catholic Church, and the social justice movement. I am happy though if you wish to withdraw your initial comments. John Fullerton MacArthur Jr. (born June 19, 1939) is an American Protestant pastor and author known for his internationally syndicated Christian teaching radio and television program Grace to You. As for ES Williams book yes I have heard of it and read several reviews -Im afraid I wont be spending the 30 on a book which just seems to want to attack and tar everyone with the same brush. You were rightthat was not very mature. Its only your perception and I would deny it. Last summer I had the privilege to attend and worship at an Acts 29 church plant in Shepherds Bush, and I pray that God would plant more churches like it across the UK. Drawn from over fifty years of intense Bible study and regular expository teaching, John MacArthur's verse-by-verse study notes, book introductions, and articles display an unwavering commitment to interpretive precisionwith the goal of making God known through His Word. Thanks for this. Hell is not something to be used as a curse word it is real. 3) You respond by providing no evidence and say that you are not against mega churches. JOHN: When you go out the door, there's one for each of you. Haters will hate This is a classic example of 1 Timothy 5:13 [45] His major contention was that there was no justification for closing down churches over a disease with 94% survival rate according to misinterpreted data from the United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). Tim Keller as an anti-Christian preacher is nonsense.it is the kind of irrational ranting legalism that I was mentioning at the beginning.very very sad that you endorse it! So First Dallas Baptist is an acceptable mega church but the Village church isnt? 2023 FOX News Network, LLC. John Fullerton MacArthur Jr. (born June 19, 1939) is an American Protestant pastor and author known for his internationally syndicated Christian teaching radio and television program Grace to You. I would ask you to withdraw your remarks about legalism.posting serious allegations.refusing to substantiate them if you are in any way suggesting that I am such a person. Even though it was only a couple of pounds I regret wasting the money. John MacArthur is the pastor of Grace Community Church in SunValley, California, a neighborhood in Los Angeles. Market data provided by Factset. I know the drill. ", "New Covenant Theology Compared With Covenantalism", "Why Every Calvinist Should Be a Premillennialist, Part 1", "Megapastor John MacArthur says 'no one is gay', compares homosexuality to adultery", "L.A. megachurch pastor mocks pandemic health orders, even as church members fall ill", "Fact Check-CDC comorbidity figures presented in sermon do not undermine deadliness of COVID-19", "L.A. County could pay $400,000 settlement to church that fought COVID-19 mandates", "John MacArthur and Grace Community Church win $800,000 settlement from California and L.A. County", https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2023/february/grace-community-church-elder-biblical-counseling-abuse.html, "Questions and Answers -- Patricia MacArthur", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_MacArthur_(American_pastor)&oldid=1142238580, This page was last edited on 1 March 2023, at 07:45. He was unable to preach the second service. One of the victims (Eileen Gray) in particular was shamed publically in front of the congregation by MacArthur for divorcing a David Gray who later was convicted of aggravated child molestation, corporal injury to a child, and child abuse. [18] He believes that scripture is inerrant and infallible because it is "the Word of God" and that God cannot lie. You can follow him on Twitter @timothynerozzi and can email him at timothy.nerozzi@fox.com, Get all the stories you need-to-know from the most powerful name in news delivered first thing every morning to your inbox. Its wrong to mock and you should try to win them over without mockery. In 1969, after graduating from Talbot Theological Seminary, John came to Grace Community Church. And now I have to go and read his recommended book I hope its not as bad as the reviews suggest! Required fields are marked *. He did not say Timothy Keller is an anti-Christian preacher. I'm a bank robber. From a spiritual standpoint its an even bigger (and opposite) no-brainer! LOS ANGELES PASTOR JOHN MACARTHUR PUBLICLY REBUKES GAVIN NEWSOM FOR 'DIABOLICAL' POLICIES, INVOKING JESUS, Pastor John MacArthur preaches at Grace Community Church in Los Angeles. Didnt appreciate the joking about drug use. It is a serious breach of the ninth commandment to defame someone in this manner. It was neither juicy nor gossip. It was a fantastic balance of biblical theology and Christ centered worship. For what its worth, I fully support your stand in almost everything else. PS Im a huge Chandler fan over here. And this from a Scottish leader of an American megachurch wonderful stuff again , Pastor, Writer, Debater, Blogger, Scot, Dundonian, married to Annabel.with three grown up children and two grandchildren.View all posts by theweeflea. And if you want to learn of the dangers of this movement I would recommend that you read The New Calvinists: Changing The Gospel by E S Williams. You are just exporting your own. [36] Speaking about evolutionary theory, he writes that Christians "ought to expose such lies for what they are and oppose them vigorously." Purpose doesnt have a parking spot is no substitute for many are the plans in a mans heart but it is the Lords purpose that prevails. John MacArthur, senior pastor of Grace Community Church in Los Angeles and founder of his ministry Grace to You, was one of the reported 4,000 pastors who preached last Sunday against. What if Joh MacArthur preached at Steven Furtick's church?Christian Music is Destroying Millions?great worship and sound doctrine.What's wrong with Elevation. John MacArthur is the pastor-teacher of Grace Community Church, as well as an author, conference speaker, chancellor of The Master's University and Seminary, and featured teacher with the Grace to You media ministry. We only do pale imitations of what is not great anyway! So I hoped and prayed that this would not become another crash and burn mega church story. PS. Can you forget your ministries, your programs, and your visions and instead seek to follow Christs? End of Discussion. But there is one criticism that I want to deal with in finishing. [4], The grandson of Canadian Anglican minister Harry MacArthur (died 1950) and son of Baptist radio preacher Jack MacArthur (born in Calgary, Canada)[5] and Irene Dockendorf, MacArthur was born in Los Angeles. (By the way I would suggest that you learn what is name is). Its not loving, judgemental, take the beam out of your own eye, it aint wrong to be rich, youre just jealous, hypocrite. ", "What is dispensationalism? I hope this is mature and open enough for you! I think youve just answered your own question; how very sad. Sadly so. Sitting in a restaurant in Charleston, North Carolina, we were delighted to meet a group of four men, who included a young man from the UK, who was working for a church called Elevation in Charlotte. | Screenshot: YouTube/Grace to You Prominent pastor and theologian John MacArthur has come under fire after a video resurfaced of him taking issue with the idea of "religious freedom," with some Christian speakers debating whether his comments were taken out of context. [25], MacArthur has stated that he opposes both "male chauvinist and feminist views. David, once again you are making assertions that do not stand scrutiny. MacArthur responded "unqualified" and proceeded to argue that Furtick, pastor of Elevation Church, was not qualified, by Biblical standards, to be a pastor. [6] During a 1979 interview, Pastor MacArthur stated he is "distantly related to General Douglas MacArthur." You equate him with the false teaching of Furtick and Elevation Church. Perhaps then a mature and open discussion could then take place. The digressive discussion of church trappings in some ways diminishes the toxic nature of this actual ministry content its danger isnt in size or wealth or me focus, it is in the false gospel it promotes he is not qualified to preach. [42] Furtick responded to this comment in his 2016 book Unqualified: How God Uses Broken People to Do Big Things. 4) Yes my point about the megachurches was that they were not per se bad. Reiterating his stance on 1 Timothy 2:12, he went on to state, "There is no case that can be made biblically for a woman preacher. So when I see money, resources and people being diverted into what appear to be personal vanity projects, branding and corporate Christianity, I weep, am angry and cry out to the Lord. I'm a bank robber."[41]. Ward's father, John Tucker, was also a member of the church who had been informed . Here is Kate Shellnut: Last year, Hohn Cho concluded Grace Community Church had made a mistake. As it happens I was sent this video by someone who was praising it.it is more like a political rally (complete with clapping) than a Christian sermon the misuse of Scripture about borders is bad enough but the approving citation of Donald Trump Is it time to start bombing the you know what out of ISIS (that is a biblical response) was appalling. As for Southern Baptists liking Donald Trump, its almost as bad as you liking Scottish Nationalism. I might write a review later but the book is dreadful Mark Driscoll and Tim Keller, for example, are frequently careless and irreverent in the way they use Scripture. Really? [1] He has been the pastor of Grace Community Church, a non-denominational church in Sun Valley, California since February 9, 1969. In 1960, after a year off, he was accepted to the Free Methodist Churchs Los Angeles Pacific College, where in his senior year he observed two games of football, going on field once for one play (see 1962 yearbook statistics). Jenna . Your remarks were and continue to be misrepresentative, deceitful and sly. Whether this ministry attracted 2 or 2 million is irrelevant the ministry is identified simply by its content as false and shunned. The writer of Hebrews 12:14 states frankly that only those who continue living holy lives will enter the Lord's presence." The truth is whether it is a mega church pastor in the US, or a small church pastor in Scotland, it is not OUR church, it is HIS. Quotes displayed in real-time or delayed by at least 15 minutes. New Calvinism quenches that desire, and true dedication to a distinctive Christian life.. Powered and implemented by FactSet Digital Solutions. 4) Its also not a good idea to claim that you know the motives of someone you dont know. 1) I did not come on to your blog and say that Matt Chandler was not a good example of how the gospel should be lived. He went on to say, "I understand that Im a fifth cousin, and so its quite a distance but nonetheless we are related. (Ezek. Again as an author who is tempted to mention or quote from my couple of books in every sermon, I sympathise. To ignore its message is to snub that which the Holy Spirit inspired. MacArthur responded, "Go home." Radio Scotland Abortion Debate Edited Highlights, https://theweeflea.com/2020/04/22/return-to-elevation/), https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3BN1lStbIw, http://thewartburgwatch.com/?s=Matt+chandler&x=0&y=0, http://www.amazon.co.uk/New-Calvinists-ES-Williams/dp/1908919329/, https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=vvjMUrPUfC4&app=desktop, https://mrayton.wordpress.com/tag/john-macarthur/, Elevation Church The Good, The Bad and the Ugly, Most Read Wee Flea Articles in 2017 THE BLOG OF DAVID ROBERTSON. MacArthur argues that confessing Jesus Christ as Lord is a necessary component of free grace theology. John Fullerton MacArthur Jr. (born June 19, 1939) is an American pastor and author known for his internationally syndicated radio program Grace to You. One expression of faith creates refugees; the other resettles them. So I was pleased to see the topic addressed here, particularly as there is another story breaking about Mr Furtick in North Carolina even as I write this. He spoke for an hour without notes and held his audience completely in the palm of his hand he is a brilliant orator using all the tricks of the trade. The screenshot below is from page 4 of Elevation Church's helpful Spontaneous Baptism How To Guide. You state, Name calling really doesnt constitute argument does it? and yet you have no problem with calling me dishonest. Los Angeles County had sued the church and its pastor, John MacArthur, last August after officials said he had he opened the church and held a large indoor worship service with unmasked attendees . I made no comment on how Matt Chandler lives as a Christian. Pastor John MacArthur on Sunday commended GraceLife Church in Alberta, Canada, which is meeting in secret after the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) barricaded their building behind three layers of chain link fence. [46][47] He stated that there was a deadlier virus killing peoplethe virus of sinleading many to eternal death, in contrast to physical death. G White this is the mega church you are setting up as an example in opposition to Matt Chandler? Could you tell me the difference? Hardly the same as Furticks message! The young man concerned served for many years as a missionary in South America before returning to the USA to head up the North American Mission Board of the Southern Baptist Convention. Finally that book! For me there is no doubt that some of Scotlands independent churches and ministries, need to be investigated re their finances..question is who does it?. This has become an increasing generational divide, where self help and selfishness mixed with weird legalism has been manufactured, packaged, and sold as faith. (I always smile when you deploy the tu quoque argument and even, on this occasion, ego quoque (You can read the follow up five years later! Not on Amazon it aint! But I find it astonishing that you cite it here in a massive church (and smaller churches) there are bound to be people who are sex abusers and the church will not always handle that well. And that is not only my perception if you look at the comments above. On top of that, MacArthur also took a salary from Grace Community Church that was "well within the upper-medium range" for California church employees, according to Johnson's 2014 statement. Your comment about owning churches is actually ban on the mark. Im afraid that the influence of the US mega churches such as Elevation is felt throughout the world. I was somewhat alarmed by the endorsement of Matt Chandler as a good example of how the gospel should be preached and lived.. If you dont like it, too bad. Furtick preaches a different gospel. You can find the details here. Theres clearly no transparency or accountability at Elevation Church! And also trying to get to know what God says in His Word and please stop shouting at those you know nothing about. Name me one church that has handled everything well. [51] They have four children, fifteen grandchildren, and had two great-grandsons by 2017. Will you not come and revive us? False teachers and those who allow the Word of God to be compromised are like a cancer in the church; some who preach flat out heresy are like the aggressive cancer and are easy to spot quickly but others who compromise a bit here and turn a blind eye there are akin to the slow growing tumour thats often not picked up until great damage is done. The entire message was based around how God can meet all MY needs. I have not misrepresented what you said. Follow TheWeeFlea.com on WordPress.com I am intrigued as to why you think my challenge to the claim is disgraceful and totally unwarranted, but you dont think the claim itself is? How easily the lure of money and outward success can lead a good man astray, and sadly take with him many people. The Bad Sadly, whilst every church has the bad, because we are all sinners and therefore infect any structure or organization we are part of, there are sometimes churches that go much further and wander away to the extent that one can hardly call them a church at all. And after 63 years of sacrificial kindness to our city, to be repeatedly threatened with court-ordered efforts to shut Grace Community Church down when no one is sick reveals an inexplicable preference for a mostly harmless virus over the life-enriching and necessary fellowship of the church., As for MacArthurs own battle against COVID-19, the 82-year-old pastor was absent from the pulpit on Dec. 27, 2020. An apologist and blogger is claiming that Matt Chandler's sermon was censored during a rebroadcast. Cho brought letters to the elders and MacArthur who ultimately told him he needed to "walk back" his findings if he wanted to remain an elder. The prominence of the pastor on the website, the Stephen Furtick ministries page, the common self-referrals and endless self-promotion of books/resources etc. Im not rich at all but Im also not jealous of someone who has far more people and more money. If you want an alternative from another megachurch pastor, then listen to this from Matt Chandler preached at Elevation (I think it was not actually posted at the time because it upset people but I may be wrong). David, you try very hard to always get the last word and I knew that the question you asked was loaded. Sorry David, we must be talking about different books. I d not think there is any man alive especially a young man who could cope with this degree of adulation and not have his head explode with pride. However, Chandler did choose to turn a blind eye to the unbiblical teaching and behaviour of Mark Driscoll, as did Piper and Keller. They are usually absorbed in religion for self-centered reasons. John MacArthur is pastor of Grace Community Church in Sun Valley, California. I simply stated that the book on my Amazon feed was priced at 30 and I was not going to pay that. Because Elevation Church certainly dont want to. I would be tempted to add, Because youre worth it! Thats hypocrisy, and no, that doesnt constitute name calling. Cool name, cool Church I knew that it was one of the fastest growing mega churches in the USA, and had heard a little of its pastor, the dynamic Stephen Furtick. It appears this lawsuit is going in our favor, MacArthur said Sunday. I wasnt doing that either which a plain reading of the text will confirm. He argued at the time that such mandates violated constitutionally protected religious liberties. Do you still endorse it? Googling information about his ministry will provide a number of discussions of his content. I agree that the greatest threat to the church comes from false teachingas you will know if you read this blog. Use the Church Finder to locate churches with TMS alumni around the world. MacArthur denied the charge, as attested on two tapes recorded in 1989 when he was asked to reason together with the IFCA man.[35], MacArthur advocates Young Earth creationism in his book The Battle For the Beginning (2001), and in his sermons. God is everywhereeven in the news. rm. Opinion Mark Wingfield. Period. On February 9, 1969, he was hired as the third and youngest pastor at the nondenominational Grace Community Church of Sun Valley, California. Despite the blurb you are not changing the world. So it would be a bit premature to throw them on a bonfire another example of your sly prose which was unwarranted. But to me that is clear what it is. To this end he cites the biblical passage of 1 Timothy 2:11-12. Furtick preaches a different gospel. Please do not excuse sin and blasphemy. Give me one example of Kellers irreverence? Please check your information and try again or call us at 1-800-759-0700. Do they not see the danger of this? G White had stated that Matt Chandler was not a good example of teaching or living and then went on to pass on gossip about a particular discipline case in the Village Church. Elevation Church's revival is seeing some theological controversy. And it's thewe call it the Shepherd's Testament; it has a little shepherd's rod on the front. It was interesting and revealing to hear about their work. I know in theory you agree with He must increase, I must decrease as do I. Stephen Furtick is his own brand and it seems it is a brand that sells well and pays well. I love the gospel, and I love the Lords people from whatever background, and I want to see Christ glorified throughout the world. They drift from church to church. . So far there has been no evidence given for assertion. There is no legalism or self-righteous pride in anything I said. If that is the last word then so be it. 4) Wrong on all counts. Finally, you make the extremely serious accusation that I have caused disunity in the body of Christ by calling Matt Chandler a false teacher and by comparing him with Scott McKenna; both accusations are totally false and completely unacceptable. If we believe that the message in our books is from God, and we feel it so strongly, then we dont really need to promote it, do we? But it takes a lot of hard work, time, and money to do what we do. Do we really believe that the Holy Spirit is incapable of working, without us chiding things along? Rather than ignoring these churches and individuals Scotlands born again believers need to stand up and contend for the faith. [13] In 1985, MacArthur was made President of Los Angeles Baptist College, now The Master's University, a four-year Christian liberal-arts college. Can I suggest an alternative standard? 2. He states, "You must receive Jesus Christ for who He is, both Lord and Savior, to be truly saved (2 Peter 2:20). And there are some well-liked denominations and networks of churches on Facebook pages too: john macarthur on elevation church. Uh, John MacArthur Is Urging His Church to Stop Supporting Religious Freedom . ", MacArthur is married to his wife, Patricia. Because your worth it! LOL! But we must not quote our own books in sermons as far as possible! I have no idea if you are particularly legalistic or not but the type of comments you were making, most certainly are. Pastor John MacArthur preaches at Grace Community Church in Los Angeles. But if the theology and ecclesiology is off, then alarm bells start ringing. 5) Yes the legalism one still stands. People make millions selling sex, playing sports and funny you never hear the news say that is wrong. Yes, some of it is biblical and Furtick is a good communicator, amusing, connected etc.but a great deal appears to pay only passing lip service to the Bible. My own view is that he didnt handle it particularly well even when forced to act. As he walked across the stage July 26 to the large, wooden pulpit, the auditorium that seats 3,500 people was filled with non-masked, non-socially distanced conservative . Last year, when far-reaching government restrictions were put in place, the megachurch continued holding indoor worship services despite bans on such gatherings. It is about the honour and glory of our triune God. MacArthur is a strong proponent of expository preaching, and has been acknowledged by Christianity Today as one of the most influential preachers of his time. lq mk I replied tongue in cheek and its unfortunate my smiley emo didnt indicate that. I will reply to them briefly. You said he was a great example, I urged caution and pointed to a recent event where he and his church had attracted adverse publicity because of how they handled a particular incident. "Just so you know, Pastor John had a bug this week and preached our first hour but asked if he might be able to take a break for the second hour. My point was that its not only out and out heretics, such as McKenna, who are a danger to the church. For you to say that I did makes you guilty of the thing you wrongly accuse me of and it is quite reprehensible. These views raised controversy within American evangelicalism and were challenged in print by non-lordship dispensationalist theologians Charles Ryrie and Zane C. Hodges, who argued that MacArthur's ministry was teaching a form of works-based salvation. I wonder if you thought the same and you told me that in order to come across as thinking that you mentioned one which you thought was ok/good. 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